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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 05:36:03 pm »
Reading Ed reply (NOT BEING A FLEX FAN) .....changes my worries of concern for the "H" - but I hope no one would have an issue with a later Ford "flex" fan (say on a Cleveland) in life!    As we all know - out of balance is the starting point to failure !

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2018, 08:16:01 pm »
True mark on the flex ffan i got some that are split on the ends with little pieces missing probly  from over reving & fan tip hitting lower rad hose clamps installed in the wrong position since the flex fan thin blades change shape as the engine gets more rpms.    Scott look at my reply #12 in the old post  it says 1 3/8''

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2018, 08:32:45 pm »
True mark on the flex ffan i got some that are split on the ends with little pieces missing probly  from over reving & fan tip hitting lower rad hose clamps installed in the wrong position since the flex fan thin blades change shape as the engine gets more rpms.    Scott look at my reply #12 in the old post  it says 1 3/8''

I did read it! It says this: "1 3/8'' is69 c9oe-h fan spacer to where fan bolts to & 1 1/2'' is total height". The ID page notes the total height.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2018, 10:51:51 pm »
ok just read id page & i just glanced at it before & didnt read it clearly between the the 2 c9oe-h fan spacers.  Under the spacer chart it says (hub on c8ye spacer is 0.2'' taller than the dorman (winged) spacer) & that maybe where some confussion between the 2 spacers come from & why MPC says c8yz is 1 1/4'' then ECZ (winged) says 1.54 '' so maybe since the ECZ has a very short hub they measured the total height & listed that in MPC . The  registry chart numbers are not the total height but up to where fan bolts to the spacer & it says that below the  spacer chart just so guys know where to measure them to not get confused.  thanks scott
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2018, 02:07:55 am »
Marti report says that my scj w-code was built December 13 1968.
I am happy to have a M68 C9OE-H fan installed rather than the C6OE-F with clutch.
And I dont worry about the odd H marking. Stamps always look suspicious on fotos, b.of.  light, angle..
The risk the fan will break is minimal.
Thanks all for a good round of information sharing.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2018, 05:58:57 am »
OK< I see what you're saying, Ed. The ID page says this: "The measurements listed in the table above are taken from the bottom of the spacer to the fan mounting flange". So you're right, I should use 1 3/8". I'm also going to have to add text that says something like "this might not be the same as what you see in the MPC. We believe the MPC measurement represents the total height". Or we could just use total height, too.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2018, 06:15:55 am »
OK< I see what you're saying, Ed. The ID page says this: "The measurements listed in the table above are taken from the bottom of the spacer to the fan mounting flange". So you're right, I should use 1 3/8". I'm also going to have to add text that says something like "this might not be the same as what you see in the MPC. We believe the MPC measurement represents the total height". Or we could just use total height, too.

Scott,
I have photos of the measurements I took at that time if you guys want to see them.

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2018, 07:26:29 am »
My recollection is that Ford uses total height including the alignment pin, which makes no sense as that has no relevance to the functional height of the spacer.  So I agree you have to be careful what dimension you are quoting; dimensions from the MPC or the actual functional height.

As far as application, I think there is no doubt the OPs 1969 model year W code car should have the H fan.  Some of the posts above seem to suggest it might not.  It is the V code where some variation occurred.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2018, 07:34:46 am »
OK< I see what you're saying, Ed. The ID page says this: "The measurements listed in the table above are taken from the bottom of the spacer to the fan mounting flange". So you're right, I should use 1 3/8". I'm also going to have to add text that says something like "this might not be the same as what you see in the MPC. We believe the MPC measurement represents the total height". Or we could just use total height, too.

Scott,
I have photos of the measurements I took at that time if you guys want to see them.

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2018, 08:14:54 am »
OK< I see what you're saying, Ed. The ID page says this: "The measurements listed in the table above are taken from the bottom of the spacer to the fan mounting flange". So you're right, I should use 1 3/8". I'm also going to have to add text that says something like "this might not be the same as what you see in the MPC. We believe the MPC measurement represents the total height". Or we could just use total height, too.

Scott,
I have photos of the measurements I took at that time if you guys want to see them.

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Ok - will do.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2018, 07:10:46 pm »
Here are the measurements.

Wing spacer (1.360")



C8YE Spacer (1.270")



This shot shows the height difference of the center section.
Wing height = .185" vs. C8YE height = .390"



Wings on the ends vs C8YE in the middle

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2018, 07:30:08 pm »
Thank you - but now I'm really confused! 1 3/8" is 1.375", which doesn't match the measurements above. Is this the situation?

Winged: 1.36"
C8YE-8546-A: 1.27"
C8AE-8546-C: MPC says 1.88" - should this be 1.375"?
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2018, 08:19:49 pm »
I thought we already agreed that the MPC dimensions are to the tip of the alignment pin?  So they would exceed those measured to the mounting face.
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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2018, 08:48:35 pm »
 Scot Dont go by my measurements as i was only close using an old yardstick Not a caliper that goes to 100th"  The 70 c8ae spacer is correct 1.88 since the dota flex fan has blades on 1 end of center hub so fan has to be closer to rad whereas c90e fan has fixed alum blades riveted to center of blades &  both center hubs sandwhich the 6 blades in the center of blades so spacer has to be shorter. Just look at both fan designs & u will see what i mean.

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Re: found NOS C9OE-H fan
« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2018, 08:51:04 pm »
Thank you - but now I'm really confused! 1 3/8" is 1.375", which doesn't match the measurements above. Is this the situation?

Winged: 1.36"
C8YE-8546-A: 1.27"
C8AE-8546-C: MPC says 1.88" - should this be 1.375"?

These are cast parts - I don't know what the tolerance (+/-) would be?
I don't think .015" would be out of tolerance?
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