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Offline anghelrestorations

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Steering box detailing
« on: November 05, 2009, 08:17:19 pm »

Thought I would share some photos of the steering box I just finished....this started off as a typical crusty rusty steering box.  I bought the rebuild kit from Randy at www.stangersite.com and took apart the old steering box myself so I could detail it the way I wanted.  The box itself is phosphated and then lightly tumbled to re-create what I think would be the closest finish to the original cast.  Some parts of the box I took down the finish more, to duplicate the machined surfaces.  I know that most people wouldnt go to this detail, but figured while I had it it apart wanted to do it as correct as possible. 
Paint codes I will add next based on about 15 or so extra steering boxes I have accumulated, and last step would be to give everything a light oil protective coating with BoeShield. 








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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 09:03:00 pm »
Looks great so far . I for one apreciate your effort. Thanks for posting the pictures;D .Bob
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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2009, 12:47:33 pm »
Thanks Bob.  I am adding a picture of the box in the car now.

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2009, 09:22:02 pm »
Marcus , Does the tag match the date code on the Box (8k)?

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 12:06:39 am »
Brandon - the tag would not match the steering box because the box itself was cast with a date code and then at some point afterward the box is assembled.  In this instance the steering box is Oct 68 and the tag you see on top is Dec 68. 
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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 10:38:12 am »
Marcus,
nice job...

how hard is it to rebuild?
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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 06:40:14 pm »

Rebuild is not too bad actually if you have the right tools....that is key with any job like this.  I probably spent more time on the plating and refinishing of the pieces than the actual rebuild itself.  If you have the time and patience its worth it.  Otherwise you would be better sent out to be rebuilt. 
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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 02:41:51 pm »
I have had the same results with phosphating.  I only keep the box in the solution for about 30 seconds though.  Take it out, let it soak in oil overnight and then scrub the surface with coarse steel wool. 

Some pics of a '65 box I did a couple months ago:

http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/K_vert/10_3_09/10_3_09%20010.jpg
http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/K_vert/10_3_09/10_3_09%20011.jpg

Unfortunately, Ford chose to black out the tops of the early boxes, so I had to "obliterate" the nice detail work of this one!
http://www.early-mustang.com/charles/K_vert/10_3_09/10_3_09%20012.jpg

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 07:11:27 pm »
What are you guys using as a phosphate dip?

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2009, 10:32:45 pm »
Manganese Phosphate

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 09:50:19 am »
Where would one get this manganese phosphate?

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 10:34:17 am »
Where would one get this manganese phosphate?
Do you have any before & after pics you could post? What process did you follow?
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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 10:45:45 am »
The phosphate solution from the link I posted has the instructions on the label.

As far as examples, I have some on the '65 K restoration blog that I'm doing:

http://65kresto.blogspot.com/

Click on the 'August' archive over the right, which will take you to the phosphate info and samples.

A step that I followed which I believe is important to getting the correct final (and lasting) finish is to soak the pieces in oil for 24 hours.  When I take pieces out of the phosphate solution, I rinse with water and use a toothbrush to remove any residue from the pot.  Then I use an air blower to dry them before dropping in an oil bucket.  I just use straight 30 wt engine oil.  Once they have soaked, you can clean them with something like dish-washing detergent on a toothbrush to clean any oily residue off.  This will not change the appearance at all, the oil soaking prevents the parts from getting that "dried" up appearance.  I usually don't clean them off until I'm ready to use them on a car.

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Re: Steering box detailing
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 12:09:17 pm »
Thanks for the info caspian, I've bought stuff from Midway befor for my shooting hobby. We have a local chem supply company, I'll check with them first. How does this mag phosphate compare to metal prep that you get from the bodyshop supply stores?