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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2018, 01:27:54 pm »
Randy, for a first week of February built CJ motor with all parts being dated before this date you would expect to see a March or April dated intake ?
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2018, 03:29:13 pm »
   I would expect to see a similar date to the block / heads.  I simply have yet to "see" one. As scarce as the A intakes are , the information is just as scarce.
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2018, 09:14:39 am »
Randy, for a first week of February built CJ motor with all parts being dated before this date you would expect to see a March or April dated intake ?

I do not have any dates for A intakes before early March. That does not mean we have yet to see some in the future. We know Cougar 038 received it's CJ engine and was Re vin # from W to an R a few weeks before the 135 cars. It was also given to the magazines in Feb 20 1968 at the same time the car your engine was from. These are the 2 cars referenced prior. We know the 135 cars were running PI intakes. I would venture to say an XE was on your engine as well even though it was assembled 8 weeks later.
One thing for sure is it did not receive an intake dated after the known completion date of the car, Feb 14. This means you need an intake dated prior to Feb 14. I suspect it was an XE.  March/April intakes are not a consideration Paul. The car was rolling thunder before that :)
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2018, 10:59:21 pm »
8C15 is the earliest "A" intake I have come across.   Wasn't there a conversation about the engine shown in the Shop Tips Magazine with the XE Exhaust Manifolds and XE Intake?   It might have been Feb or March '68 issue.  There couldnt have been many XE Intakes for sure. 
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2018, 07:43:40 am »
0038 retains its W VIN. The intake on 0038 is C7AE-F aluminum. Details on the 0038 engine match the factory letter for the 135 cars.


Randy, for a first week of February built CJ motor with all parts being dated before this date you would expect to see a March or April dated intake ?

I do not have any dates for A intakes before early March. That does not mean we have yet to see some in the future. We know Cougar 038 received it's CJ engine and was Re vin # from W to an R a few weeks before the 135 cars. It was also given to the magazines in Feb 20 1968 at the same time the car your engine was from. These are the 2 cars referenced prior. We know the 135 cars were running PI intakes. I would venture to say an XE was on your engine as well even though it was assembled 8 weeks later.
One thing for sure is it did not receive an intake dated after the known completion date of the car, Feb 14. This means you need an intake dated prior to Feb 14. I suspect it was an XE.  March/April intakes are not a consideration Paul. The car was rolling thunder before that :)
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2018, 09:30:52 am »
I have discussed the car several times with Phil, most recently about the PS cooler and trying to help with the Green Hornet which is also an early CJ transplant. Here is the actual article that I incorrectly referenced with detail on intake and double vin  >:( just read it again after a decade lol thanks Royce  :)

Someone got XE intakes and this Feb 14 cars engine is a candidate. I suppose you could run a PI like the Dec 67' transplant cars but I think they were on there way to cast iron by Feb since the A intakes are in production by March.
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2018, 11:05:20 am »
 I have had the fortune to view and own copies of many "intra company" documents as well as talk to several guys who were "there in the day". The letter would read something like " E&F to provide ( quantity) 428 Cobra Jet engines to LM Division for...." . The letter would have four or five cc's to keep everyone in the loop. Accountability and "red tape" abounded. "Occasionally" , "development engines" , like this one appears to be , were supplied purely because of "availability". The '69 Boss 429 "Magazine test car" ( vin unknown, no way was it a Z like the two drag units) was one of these as noted by magazine writers who complained of the lack of "street manners" and noted the fact in their articles. The engine was in fact a cast iron headed engine from E&F's experimental engine group.
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2018, 02:54:33 pm »
Thanks guys for sharing all of this. It is amazing stuff.  Kris
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Re: Component ID section question - about early intakes
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2018, 09:41:14 pm »
Kerry, thanks for posting all of the info.
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