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Offline VTMine_Engineer

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1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« on: July 26, 2011, 11:10:11 pm »
About 35 years ago my father sold the first car he ever bought because he was getting married to my mother. Ever since he has been trying to locate the car. From what he was told at the dealership when he purchased it and what research we have done to this point, It was a very rare car. It was a 1970 Ford Mustang 428 SCJ, Mach 1, R-code, drag pack car. It was the Grabber Green color with black interior. To this date we have only been able to locate one that was almost identical in New York. He is unable to find the VIN since he sold it so long ago. So I wanted to see if anyone on this site maybe has the car or knows where one might be. The car was purchased new in Virginia and he thinks it went to Tennessee when he sold it. I know its like finding a needle in a hay stack, but thought I would at least try. Thanks
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 12:23:40 am »
If you are serious about trying to find it and he remembers the original dealer name, I'm sure you can have Kevin Marti of Marti Auto Works perform a search based on that dealer and how the car was optioned. It will cost you some money to do so but more than likely between your dad's info and Marti's info you will be able to figure out the actual VIN and that may prove to be helpful!
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 12:32:19 am »
The dealer was Bob Mullins Ford in Richlands, VA. I have thought about the Marti Report route, but thought I would run this post on here in case someone registered here has the car. The car we located in New York had a Marti report which stated that car had been sold by a dealer in New York so we were able to eliminate that particular car. Thats been the only other 70 428 SCJ with those particular options that was Grabber Green we have ever seen. Attached is a picture of the car at the dealership when it was brand new
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 01:16:47 am »
Well that is a GREAT pic! Hope you can find it!
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 05:58:15 am »
I can't help without a VIN, but I can confirm that the Marti research option will work if you have enough info to guide them.  I did it myself for a 1967 Galaxie owned by my father in the 1970s.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 11:16:55 am »
Are you sure the car was purchased "brand new" at the dealer?  It appears the car has a few modifications, they could have been done by the dealer, or perhaps they were done by an owner that had it only a very short time.  It has a front spoiler, wider rear tires and the wheels appear to be something other than the stock hubcaps or styled steel wheels that were available from the factory.  I am not trying to question you, but only add helpful hints to your search.  VERY cool picture by the way!
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 11:53:16 am »
Yes the car was purchased new from the dealer, however, the dealers son rode the car as a demo for about 5,000 miles. He did change the wheels, but when my dad purchased the car the original wheels came with the car. My dad said the front spoiler was from factory and original. I filled out a research stats form with Marti Reports to try and locate the VIN. Hopefully that works out and I can locate this car.

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 02:20:15 pm »
Front spoilers were standard on Boss 429s and Boss 302s and were not available on any other Mustang from the factory, it was added too.  They all have them now, including mine, but it is not factory correct except for a Boss.  Good luck with the hunt and keep us posted on where your trail leads you.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2011, 02:23:47 pm »
I lived in Mass. when i was a kid . Had a GG 1970 C6 3.91 DP Mach. That was in 1976-1977. I do not have any VIN info.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2011, 04:44:56 pm »
This car was a R-Code 4-speed. I think a C6 was an automatic correct? Not familiar with vintage mustangs im a camaro man oops ;)

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2011, 05:24:31 pm »
I think a C6 was an automatic correct?

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2011, 05:40:59 pm »
Not the same car, sorry to hear about the Chevy sickness.. ;)
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2011, 05:41:46 pm »
     I don't know about in the 69-70 era. But I've heard of some dealers buying another dealers cars prior to delivery to the original dealership. So in a case like that would the Marti be correct? It is kind of splitting hairs but is the dealer information on the Marti the ordering dealer or the selling dealer. I'm sure that most of the time they were the same dealer. But if a dealer could make a little fast money trading a desirable car off prior to actual delivery I think some would of.
     The reason I bring this up is supposedly back in the 70's-80's a local dealer would pick up Corvettes from some of the small town dealers. The big dealer had the clientele to afford a fully optioned Vette where the little guy didn't. He could sell or barter his Vette allotment away so to speak.
     This may have some significance on my Mach1 SCJ. It was sold by a dealer in a town that only has a population of like 800 now. I suspect that the car was wholesale traded before it even hit the lot. Could that of happened back then.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2011, 08:27:51 pm »
Yes this is true dealers used to and dealers today still trade off high value cars for other cars. I bought a 07 corvette from one of the largest corvette dealers in the south and the window sticker stated the car had been originally shipped to another dealership. I asked the dealer about this and it was a small Chevrolet dealer who had the car in a showroom for 3 months so they traded a loaded out 3500 duramax diesel for it. Apparently the area the dealership was located could move a diesel truck faster than a corvette. However this mustang was ordered by the owner of the dealership for sale. The dealership is no longer in existence, but I still talk to the dealer about this particular car. As I stated in an earlier post the car was ordered for him to ride around for a few thousand miles as a demo. 

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2011, 09:27:36 pm »
The Marti report has both the order date and sold dates on it.  If you know the approximate date the car was purchased, sounds like it should be a home run for him to be able to identify the VIN of this car.  Another observation of the photo is the lack of both the 428 numerals on the hood and the Cobra Jet script on the shaker.  The missing 428 numerals might indicate it was an early production car, as it seems many of them lack those.  The missing script is unusual though.
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