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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2011, 09:52:22 pm »
Your right on the picture. The car didn't have the 428 on the hood like some of them did from the factory. My dad said that the dealers son took the cobra jet emblem off the shaker and put holman and moody (sorry if I misspelled) on each side of the shaker. Apparently these are the guys who built and did the development of the big engines for ford. He has no idea why they did this and he said he was given the cobra jet emblems with the car and he put them in the glove box.

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2011, 01:24:47 am »
     I agree that Marti should be able to find this car. You know too much about it for him to miss it. One of the problems would be that after spending the money to get the Vin there isn't any assurance that the car survived yet made it to the registry. It could be running around somewhere a different color with a different engine. If your serious about finding it, you almost have to go the Marti route. Just be prepared for a lot more searching. Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2011, 11:27:13 pm »
If the car was ordered as a demo, that should make it real easy for marti to find the car, as Dealer Demonstrator was an order type on the marti report, I can't imagine that Bob Mullins Ford in Richlands, VA. ordered mor than one GG 428 dealer demonstrator.......
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2011, 02:35:14 pm »
My car is very close to what you are describing.
It is a GG with black interior car.
it's a 4 spd.
SCJ with 4:30 rear
My car was the only Mach 1 GG SCJ 4:30 black interior 4spd that was ordered with sports slats and a rear deck spoiler.
Your picture shows it has sport slats, will have to look closer at your pict to see it I see a rear spoiler.
Mine was also ordered with the black hood stripe.
It had new,
sport slats
rear deck spoiler
power front brakes
power steering
am radio
argent styled steel wheels
Tach

Interesting is that It was purchased new back east.

ordered 10/21/69
sold 5/4/70
Boston ordering district

dealer
Ashley Ford Sales
395 MT Pleasant, MA 02742

It is very close to what you are looking for.
69 Mach1 Qcode SCJ 3.91 4spd
69 Mach1 Qcode CJ 4spd black jade
71 Mach1 Jcode SCJ 4spd (3.91) grab green
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 03:26:56 pm »
Are you sure of the dealership?
I googled Ashly ford sales and your picture is enough similar to the landscape, building to make me question you. And the reflection in the window of your picture looks like a bridge, there is a similar bridge across the street from Ahsley Ford.

Your picture does show that the car has a rear spoiler and slats.  Mine was the only car ordered like that according to Marti.
There were only 35 GG mach1 4spds with a black interior, only 6 of those were 4:30 rears, 2 had slats, and mine was the only one with slats and a spoiler.
69 Mach1 Qcode SCJ 3.91 4spd
69 Mach1 Qcode CJ 4spd black jade
71 Mach1 Jcode SCJ 4spd (3.91) grab green
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2011, 04:35:01 pm »
Hey, My 70 SCJ was also purchased through Ashley Ford.  It was built 9/12/69 but sold on 5/4/71. Not sure why it took so long to sell.  I wonder if it was also demo car.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2011, 09:35:46 pm »
The car you have does seem like its very similar to my dads car, but if Marti lists the selling dealer as Ashley Ford then it wouldnt be the exact car. I will have to ask him to see what rears the car had in it. Im 100% positive about the selling dealership being Mullins Ford in Richlands, Va. Thats where my dad purchased the car and the picture was taken outside their showroom at the dealership. Im still friends with the owner of the dealership which is no longer in existence. I do know the car did come with slats and a rear spoiler. I have been trying to do the research stats with Marti to locate a VIN, but there site has been having difficulties and the form will not go through. Supposedly they are working to get this fixed and as soon as they do I can submit the information I have about the car. I really hope I can find it or better yet someone on this site has the car. I will keep you updated on the search. Thanks $POORCARRICH for posting information about your car because this is something I would hope would happen. I know the GG 428SCJ are rare cars and I was hoping that the people on here that had those cars would check their Marti Report if they have one to see if its the car im looking for. Im betting there isn't too many 70 GG 428 SCJ registered on this site.

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2011, 10:53:54 pm »
My car is the only 4:30 car to be ordered with slats and a spoiler, if it was a 4:30 car it would most likely be my car somehow unless the dealer added the slats and spoiler.  This would only leave the 3:91 cars to choose from
You might check with the Mullins owner to see if it was a dealer transfer if he remembers the car.
Note that it took 7 months to sell my car. Does your father remember when he bought the car? May 1970 (right after the snow melted)?
Also think about the options I listed to see if they match what he drove.

When, where, to who, did your father sell the car? Any ideas?

Craig429,
Cool sounds like someone at Ashley Ford liked the fast cars, probably drove them to work at the dealer every day they got two years of driving out of just our cars. Maybe there was a dragstrip nearby :D
69 Mach1 Qcode SCJ 3.91 4spd
69 Mach1 Qcode CJ 4spd black jade
71 Mach1 Jcode SCJ 4spd (3.91) grab green
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2011, 11:59:44 pm »
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My car is the only 4:30 car to be ordered with slats and a spoiler, if it was a 4:30 car it would most likely be my car somehow unless the dealer added the slats and spoiler.  This would only leave the 3:91 cars to choose from
     All interesting. I don't think he has said whether the axle was 4.30 or 3.91. $POORCARRICH your car sure is a close match. Can anyone tell from the picture if it is truly a SCJ? Anybody have the production figures matching his Dad's car only in a 3.91 axle? Dealer installed slats and wing would open this up to a larger range of cars. I can't wait for the Marti info. Who doesn't like a good mystrey?
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69 Mach 1 Dearborn SCJ 4.30 4spd 6/17/69 Candy Apple Red
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2011, 09:23:47 am »
Ok so I just spoke with my Dad and the owner of the dealerships son who drove the car as a demo. The car had a 3.91 Detroit locker posi-trac rear end and came from the factory with slats and a rear spoiler. According to the dealers son, Mullins Ford was able to order this particular car because of their high volume of sales of mustangs in their ordering district. Apparently, according to him, with this color and options combination it was hard to get one of these cars back in 1970. Mullins Ford was in the Cincinnati ordering district (#47) and their dealer number was 47H547.

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2011, 12:10:11 pm »
I had Kevin to find a CJ vin for me a few years ago. The only info I had to give him was the dealer where it was bought, the color, a 4-speed  transmission, and it was a coupe. From there I was able to trace in down through the DMV and the help of a friend who was in law enforcement.  It can be done. Good luck!


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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2011, 12:18:46 pm »
Wish it was mine. Would have been cool to know it's beginnings and have such a great picture of it. Good luck with your search.
69 Mach1 Qcode SCJ 3.91 4spd
69 Mach1 Qcode CJ 4spd black jade
71 Mach1 Jcode SCJ 4spd (3.91) grab green
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2011, 06:57:51 pm »
The car had a 3.91 Detroit locker posi-trac rear end

Ford didn't build a 1970 Mustang with that type of rear end.  The 1970 3.91 was a traction-lok. The 4.30 could be either a traction-lok or a Detroit Locker.
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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2011, 08:56:46 pm »
The Detroit locker may be a mistake, but he's 100% that it had 3.91 rears. Im hoping Marti will hurry up and fix their site, im anxious to see if he can find the VIN

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Re: 1970 428 SCJ Mustang
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2011, 03:36:11 pm »
Just submitted all the info to Marti, so hopefully he will be able to get me the VIN and the detailed stats on the car pretty quick. As soon as I hear from him I will post the information on here. Thanks