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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2016, 01:46:24 pm »
as far as the engine go's


C6ME-A
 
'66 - '70/ 428 c.i.d.
 
428-4V, Police Interceptor, May Or May Not Be Drilled For Hydraulic Lifters… Look For Oil Galleries
 
and the heads

C7AE-A is a universal FE head, used on anything that era.

 Its a 390 head, 428 head, and even, get this, 67 Shelby GT-500 dual quad head.



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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2016, 02:13:39 pm »
The C6ME is "universal" as well.
That casting plate was used on 352, 360 and 390 as well at that time. The 6L date tells us it was cast 4 months into 1967 vehicle production. A solid lifter P code Police block would be dated to work in a previous years car production, 1966
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2016, 02:45:55 pm »
aha, so i will need a correct engine than.

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2016, 03:28:38 pm »
aha, so i will need a correct engine than.

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2016, 03:49:24 pm »
hey  yes, one car is the cobra jet and the other one is a boss 302 the report's are correct
     Sorry, I missed the 2 car part.
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2016, 05:05:10 pm »
i want to sell one of the 2 and restore the other one but can't make up my mind what one to restore my selve. the CJ are build less of than the boss302
 

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2016, 06:51:26 pm »
i want to sell one of the 2 and restore the other one but can't make up my mind what one to restore my selve. the CJ are build less of than the boss302

That's makes correct dated parts hard to find :-/

Is the Boss numbers matching?  If so, I would restore that one.  Assuming the bodies have roughly equal needs.  70 Boss parts will cost comparably with the SCJ parts, but more common so easier to find.
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2016, 08:30:40 pm »
i want to sell one of the 2 and restore the other one but can't make up my mind what one to restore my selve. the CJ are build less of than the boss302
My vote, and probably most of us, would be to restore the Cobra Jet. Much more desirable than the Boss, Probably will cost a bit more, since you have the Super Cobra Jet, but in the end, you will have a very desirable, more valuable, and highly sought after car.
 Too bad it wasn't back in the states, it even came from Chicago, my home town.
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2016, 09:54:51 pm »
The Boss is an open rear 3.50 and no shaker but good color
The SCJ is going to have way more torque
Two completely different cars by the seat of the pants.
If you decide on the Cobra Jet I can help you locate the parts. I ship to Europe frequently through an exporter in Texas that covers Europe.
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2016, 10:06:56 pm »
     Man I can feel the negative vibes already. Restore the SCJ. Now hear me out on my logic. The cars appear to both be in Europe. So what will the useage be? Neither will likely see any serious judging. So the two cars will look alike to most people that will see them. Hey both are Mustang fastbacks. There isn't many 7 liter engines driving around there. When I tell my Dutch cousins that my Mustangs have engines that large. I can see the back of their eye sockets.
     Since the cars won't likely be judged the op can build a look a like SCJ engine at a discount. Aftermarket rods & bolts, a 1U crank, intake & dizzy. Even the hatchet is reproduced. Balancing it all might take some work. Go for the WOW factor of the 7 liters. I honestly don't think you'll be disappointed. Best of luck to you.
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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2016, 02:47:56 am »
i bought the 2 in Texas about 5 weeks ago. the CJ has a better body than the boss, the boss needs new floor pans the CJ is rock solid as i can see on the picture's. The cars are still on it's way over here they will arrive in Rotterdam on Wednesday. I am an importer of American car parts to Europe as well i have a 20 ft container each 6-8 weeks and am wharehouse dealer from Dynacorn, TMI,.... but that's not way i am here.  first i wanted to restore the boss but after doing some interweb searching i noticed that the CJ are less of. I want to restore it back to original, to me this is advertisement and it keep's the best value. i already have a 70 charger500 with 440 so i am into the 7 Liters hahaha.

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2016, 02:49:30 am »
The Boss is an open rear 3.50 and no shaker but good color
The SCJ is going to have way more torque
Two completely different cars by the seat of the pants.
If you decide on the Cobra Jet I can help you locate the parts. I ship to Europe frequently through an exporter in Texas that covers Europe.

hey man, i ship from Fort Lauderdale and it would be gr8 if we could do some business in the future on the CJ parts i will need.

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2016, 12:29:21 pm »
Just reach out when you get a game plan together. I operate a small business specializing in 428 but also a true hobby collector as well so it is 24/7. Can get you dialed in correct. There are references in the vendor and supplier recommendations section of this forum. If you do not buy that is ok too and will get you answers regardless.

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2016, 01:11:24 pm »
I was considering buying a boss 302 for a flip to finance my hobby until one of the forum members here educated me. This guy is a former big 3 financial analyst and he said that the boss 302 in number 3 condition mostly original, is a 45K car.  A boss 302 in number 1 condition brings 75K on a good day.  I have found his opinion to be accurate with respect to values.

The boss 302 had a problem engine from the start, and the interiors are standard.  Many of the parts, including the original carburetor, are gone, in fact Ford offered a replacement carburetor which was considered an upgrade.  The general consensus is that the engine needed more cubes and the RPM that it was capable of exceeded the cam in block design with regard to valve float, not to mention the piston speed was excessive.

Side by side in the same condition a Cobra Jet is worth much more, perhaps 20 to 30 percent, partly due to the attractive colors our cars came with as opposed to the limited numbers of colors available to the boss 302.  The primary advantage a CJ has over a boss 302 is the big block which buyers want, myself included. 

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Re: IS this a real CJ hood?
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2016, 10:20:31 pm »
I highly recommend Sportyworty if you decide to restore the Cobra Jet. He has the knowledge.
BTW, He knows Bosses also, and pretty much anything else regarding Musclecars. He is a great resource.
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