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Offline LooseNoodle

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Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« on: June 12, 2018, 03:33:40 am »
Hi all,
changed the idler arm yesterday and also had the wheels on my 1969 SCJ aligned. I would like to share the numbers and get some discussion started;

Camber: 0° 45' N
Caster: 1° 20' P
Toe: 0°25' P (per wheel)

The specs found on the internet stating Camber 3/4 P dont make sense. What would it be good for handlingwise?

Does anyone have the factory specs fora 1969 CJ/SCJ ?

1969 SCJ 4-spd, W-code, Candyapple red

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 08:48:09 am »
caster3/4 negative to1 1/4 positive prefered1/4 positive.  Camber 1/4 posititive to 1 3/4 positive preferred 3/4 positive.  Toe in 3/16 + -1/16.Thats out of my1965 to 1972 chiltons manual.It only shows 1969 cougar and mustang no cj or scj. I'm thinking there all the same small block or big block or at least its not listed in my chiltons there all listed as 1969 mustang cougar.Hope this helps Wes

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 09:04:36 am »
From the 69 Shop Manual.  Brian
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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 10:59:18 am »
From the 69 Shop Manual.  Brian

Something to consider: those specs were designed for bias-ply tires. I don't know if they're appropriate for use with radial tires, but maybe that's something to discuss with your alignment shop depending on the type of tire you're using.

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 10:05:10 am »
You're good. Personally,I like 0 camber and maybe a little more caster than yours which helps it go straight down the road and steering wheel returns to center better. It would be a little harder to steer with manual steering. I'm assuming yours is not a road race deal.

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 04:16:21 pm »
I just replaced the strut rod bushings on my ride.  As a consequence I also had to have a new alignment.  Brian
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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 08:02:33 pm »
I just replaced the strut rod bushings on my ride.  As a consequence I also had to have a new alignment.  Brian

I notice your receipt is from Clarence Brown Alignment, Brian.

I took my KR to him around '77, because a Firestone store in Poway told me that I had some serious problem and needed the frame straightened before they could align it...which astonished me, since it was definitely never hit.  Clarence Brown aligned it for his basic price, and he asked me to go back to Firestone and tell them they are effing idiots and need to stop pretending to do alignments  :)!  I was impressed that there were still honest people in the world.  I'm kind of amazed that he is still there after all these years.   

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2018, 03:21:25 pm »
    Well I for one cannot read/understand the spec's posted by the guy from Sweden ?  The spec's posted from the 69 Shop Manual are pretty much in line with the most recent alignment spec's on my car.  So radial tires and fifty years later not that much has changed.   
    Gerald; interesting that you would remember Clarence Brown.  That shop has moved, maybe 1/2 mile, from it's original location on that dead-end street in Claremont.  Has probably changed hands twice since 1980.  They still enjoy an enviable reputation and have the confidence and respect of the car crowd here in San Diego.  Your comments caused me to reflect on how many of the ' old time ' hands on, knowledgeable, competent mechanics are still around.  Not many.  Most are gone for all the obvious reasons and have been replaced by the types of shops, with few exceptions, I don't like to take my car or parts to.  I am not saying the old time shops were temples of honesty and integrity but they, for the most part, could make repairs.  While I can only count them on one hand there are still a few shops around that can service my 65 and 69 with confidence and experience.  One shop still re-cores radiators and another is a complete clutch service shop.  So I am fortunate that they have remained in business.   Oh well I do go on.  Brian   
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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2018, 03:57:10 pm »
...  I am not saying the old time shops were temples of honesty and integrity but they, for the most part, could make repairs.  While I can only count them on one hand there are still a few shops around that can service my 65 and 69 with confidence and experience.  One shop still re-cores radiators and another is a complete clutch service shop...

Would that radiator shop be "Ace Radiator", Brian...off of I5 near the Coronado bridge?  A neighbor of mine in Alpine used to own that.."The best place to take a leak in town".  As I recall he did a lot of commercial trucking work under contracts, but he'd also fix most anything with a radiator...and he'd been there forever.

It is a relief to have a "go-to" place to get things done.  Where I am now, I have a machinist that I trust...other than that, zippo.

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Re: Wheel alignment 1969 CJ/SCJ
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2018, 09:07:44 pm »
No never went to Ace.  Do remember the adage.  Brian
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