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Transmission vin number for a 70
« on: June 14, 2018, 10:58:41 pm »
Im not sure if this is the best place for this because of what it goes to but I will try here as I don't know where else. I was part hunting and found a big in big out trans without a tag and a short tail housing and a vin number on the flange up front;  0H172302 so I believe its from a Torino originally and its clear from the case colors the rear housing has been changed. The front case is a C8 with a 70 date and the rear case is a C7 with an unreadable date on it. This trans is currently for sale in NJ.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2018, 12:26:29 am »
so - what are you asking?

Are you telling us of a part that you've located to see if there's anyone else who wants it?
Are you saying that you don't know if you should buy it?
Are you asking for advice on what to do next?

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2018, 08:41:56 am »
     I think that the info on the tag plus the complete casting number off of the tail shaft is the best way to identify it.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2018, 11:08:26 am »
Is this a Torino Vin stamping ?
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2018, 11:10:24 am »
Is this a Torino Vin stamping ?

Well, if it were it would be a '70 Torino and not a 428 CJ.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2018, 11:22:38 am »
Is this a Torino Vin stamping ?

You can't tell from the partial VIN. "H" indicates the Lorain, Ohio, assembly plant, but it doesn't tell you which type of car the transmission was installed in. If you know which car lines were assembled at Lorain in 1970 you can make an educated guess, and yes, I'm pretty sure that Torinos and Fairlanes were still being assembled there for the 1970 model year, but with 429 engines. If you want to know for sure you can ask Marti Auto Works to do some custom research for you based on the partial VIN.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2018, 11:46:21 am »
I had Marti do a partial vin search in the past and had the results the next day!

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2018, 03:08:38 pm »
My mistake I thought the Torinos  had the 428 in 1970.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2018, 04:12:43 pm »
     I find some of this puzzling. It was my understanding that the first few years of 429 production was automatics only. The story I was told that the early 429 cranks didn't even have the pilot hole for the end of the transmission input shaft. Someone may need to correct me.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2018, 07:01:33 pm »
Is this a Torino Vin stamping ?

You can't tell from the partial VIN. "H" indicates the Lorain, Ohio, assembly plant, but it doesn't tell you which type of car the transmission was installed in. If you know which car lines were assembled at Lorain in 1970 you can make an educated guess, and yes, I'm pretty sure that Torinos and Fairlanes were still being assembled there for the 1970 model year, but with 429 engines. If you want to know for sure you can ask Marti Auto Works to do some custom research for you based on the partial VIN.

The Lorain, Ohio assembly plant built full and mid sized Fords and Mercurys in 1970.  The Torino, Fairlane 500, Montego and Cyclone models could all be optioned with (3) different 429 engines which all came standard with big-in-big-out toploaders.   428PIs were still being installed into Police Interceptors at Lorain in the 1970 model year but they were only available with the C6 automatic.

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 08:53:26 pm »
I posted this only for the reason of possibly reuniting this part to its original car and current owner and I realize there is a slim chance of this happening,  if someone posted the where abouts of the transmission to my car I would be very happy to say the least. I don't know much at all about the 69/70 cars but thought it would be worth the try.
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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2018, 05:55:03 am »
Good idea.

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2018, 12:03:00 am »
The hole in the back of the crank has to be there for the torque converter too, so I believe that story is incorrect.

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2018, 02:53:27 am »
I posted this only for the reason of possibly reuniting this part to its original car and current owner and I realize there is a slim chance of this happening,  if someone posted the where abouts of the transmission to my car I would be very happy to say the least. I don't know much at all about the 69/70 cars but thought it would be worth the try.

I wish more people would post partial VIN numbers for parts they have. I would love to find the original block for my car (not holding my breath).  There are several Torino and 385 series groups on Facebook you should make this info available there as well. 

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Re: Transmission vin number for a 70
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2018, 03:17:32 pm »
The hole in the back of the crank has to be there for the torque converter too, so I believe that story is incorrect.
     Thanks, good to learn. Another myth that I can erase from my mind.
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