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Offline Chris Teeling

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2019, 01:35:23 pm »
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The isolators are not side specific and cannot be installed backwards. Same goes for the block plates.


The block plates CAN be installed backwards. One of them has "R" stamped on it to indicate that it should be installed on the passenger side.
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Re: engine install day
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2019, 06:31:07 pm »
Mount are not aligning....I got the pax side in after I pulled out the left side...but now the drivers side will not go down...even without the hoist...the left side will not drop down the last two inches....the drivers side is higher than the pax side so it needs to go down...and nowthing is holing it up...what is the trick to get it so settle down...I have cleared all metal and headers..it is not touching...what is ajar ...I tried lowering and raising the tranny...you can see all the paint damage raising and lowering...and I checked the mounts are on the right side and the right ones...gesh...the only thing I see is the pax side mounts are not bolted down all the way yet...(anyone live near Tracy CA wants to earn some extra $).

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2019, 07:29:47 pm »
Get some more pictures of everything so we can help.

The driver's side looks ok however the passenger side is way too low. The CL of the header bolts on my car are about even with the top of the shock tower reinforcements on both sides.
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Re: engine install day
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2019, 09:13:29 pm »
I think Chris is on to something.  I just went and looked at my passenger side and the top header bolt IS much higher than that shown in the photos.  Are you sure you have the correct frame brackets?

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2019, 12:34:11 am »
Yes, on the correct frame brackets...I had the small block ones and someone saw that...so I just added the big block ones....I also confirmed I have the one labeled with an R on the pax side.  The brackets are correct unless you tell me the removable part of the frame bracket goes on the rear of the frame...and not sure how that would fit.  very odd you said the header bolt is level with the reinforcement....I will add more pictures tomorrow...thanks for all the help

The key part is when I removed all the mounts...the engine went way lower....but when I get one mount is...only one will fit and the other will not go down low enough...I will add back in the drivers mount to show the distance it has to travel...and this is a shaker hood...it has to fit the correct height.

Am I off thinking a crow bar on the high side will bring it down...I take it....

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2019, 01:12:58 am »
I am going to try mounting the brackets to the isolation and pry down to connect the bolts to the frame...can anyone send me picutres of their motor mounts installed...that might help.

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2019, 05:34:51 am »
Are you going to have to dent the headers? I will be putting my super comps on this winter. I will be bolting to the engine and dropping in in one without the trans, easy to install that after. Figuring it will have to go in and out a few times to ajust!! Brake booster and mastercylinder will have to be loosend to do it this was, but easier than trying to do the header bolts up in there!!! I hope
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Re: engine install day
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2019, 07:42:19 am »
I am going to try mounting the brackets to the isolation and pry down to connect the bolts to the frame...can anyone send me picutres of their motor mounts installed...that might help.

Hope this helps.

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2019, 08:33:44 am »
… some more.  All right side pictures.  These are marked D1ZA-6038-CA FoMoCo AU 68.  Brian
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Re: engine install day
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2019, 11:50:35 am »
could you share you header location on both side so I can see how low or how high I need to be.

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2019, 12:22:48 pm »
     Try threading a small cord past the engine in the back. Slowly bring it forward like you're flossing teeth. This might show a hidden spot that is hitting that you haven't noticed.
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Re: engine install day
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2019, 02:29:48 pm »
will do...but when I remove the motor mounts...the engine goes all the way down...Pretty sure there is no catches...just torgue on one mount....I guess...

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2019, 04:35:17 pm »
Here are a couple of shots of mine.  Note that the shock tower reinforcements have been notched to allow a little extra clearance.




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Re: engine install day
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2019, 05:00:45 pm »
thanks..I wish I had known to knotch the reinforcements...the only way to tighten headers bolts is to raise engine...but...yours look higher than mine....I just do not understand how mine can be that much lower....and why the motor mount on the higher side...what looks like normal....does not reach the frame mount....

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Re: engine install day
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2019, 08:31:49 pm »
No need to notch the reinforcements, just use 3/4 inch long SST screws. It's a tight fit but you can remove them.
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