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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2019, 05:52:39 am »
Hi Scott, I have both a 69 pointer , and I can measure the pointer on one of my 70's (Early Metuchen Car), as well as an NOS pointer but I can't measure and photograph them till tomorrow if that will work …..

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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2019, 05:52:14 pm »
Seriously? No one has a 69/70 CJ pointer available for a picture?
     I bet lots of members are in the same position that I'm in. I've gather parts literally every month. I don't have a pointer that I could reasonably present as correct. Likely, most members are a bit confused on the identification. Since this topic exists, our confusion is founded. Last thing that I'd want to do is present an unknown as fact. The parts i/d section is way too valuable to me to risk buggering it up. Thanks to all for the work that you do.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2019, 06:52:23 pm »
Seriously? No one has a 69/70 CJ pointer available for a picture?
     I bet lots of members are in the same position that I'm in. I've gather parts literally every month. I don't have a pointer that I could reasonably present as correct. Likely, most members are a bit confused on the identification. Since this topic exists, our confusion is founded. Last thing that I'd want to do is present an unknown as fact. The parts i/d section is way too valuable to me to risk buggering it up. Thanks to all for the work that you do.

keep in mind that no one is asking for you guys to make any claims about anything being correct. What we need to see is what you have with as much information as possible to confirm where it came from. We can try to figure out "correct" from there.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2019, 08:34:24 pm »
HI Scott, went to take the pointer off my early 70, but you gotta take the alternator adjusting bracket off to get it off, and to get that off you gotta take the water pump pulley off, and to get that off, you gotta take the fan and shroud off …… On top of that it's cold as duck nuts out tonight so needless to say I didn't take that one off. I did root thru my stuff and found a pointer on a June 1968 cover (that came off a 428) measures 2.44" tall. I pulled out an NOS C9AZ-6023-A pointer and it measures 2.778 tall. These are pretty crappy stampings so I'm sure it's the pointer that's supposed to be 2 3/4" tall in the parts book.

It seems that ford lengthened the pointer some time in early 69 so you could actually see it, and the late CJ/SCJ difference is the bend for the larger balancer and not the length ….

I'll post a pic of these two for now ….
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2019, 05:52:41 am »
Thanks! We have MPC info that says that the "shorter" pointer continued into the start of the 1969 model year, so the pictures above are consistent with the documentation I've seen.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2019, 06:37:06 am »
Scott, Chris,

I currently have the engine out of my 69 SCJ that was built 21st of Feb 69. Would you like any photos and details from it? Engine is original.

My 70 SCJ has been played with so can’t confirm what the pointer is from.

Thinking you may not need it but thought I would offer.

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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2019, 10:27:21 am »
The scj pointer has to be different since the scj harmonic balancer is 1/2'' taller & 7/16'' thicker than the cj balancer.

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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2019, 10:32:08 am »
I currently have the engine out of my 69 SCJ that was built 21st of Feb 69. Would you like any photos and details from it? Engine is original.

Thanks, Greg, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head. The best thing you could do is take pictures of as much as you're willing, keep those aside someplace, and watch for questions like this one as they come up in the forum. It's always nice when people can share pictures of known original parts when we're asking questions.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2019, 09:58:04 pm »
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Hi Scott, I have both a 69 pointer , and I can measure the pointer on one of my 70's (Early Metuchen Car), as well as an NOS pointer but I can't measure and photograph them till tomorrow if that will work …..

John

Thanks John, Pictures & dimensions would be appreciated!
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2019, 05:09:30 pm »
I've updated the ID page based on the information we've shared in this topic. What do y'all think?

https://www.428cobrajet.org/id-timing-pointer
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2019, 08:38:18 pm »
Looks good! Thank you Scott, John, Brian and all others for all you’ve done in gathering this info. Much appreciated! I have only one suggestion and that is maybe to add a reference to the length of the 68/69 CJ pointers as was done in the SCJ photo.

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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2019, 05:58:29 am »
Looks good! Thank you Scott, John, Brian and all others for all you’ve done in gathering this info. Much appreciated! I have only one suggestion and that is maybe to add a reference to the length of the 68/69 CJ pointers as was done in the SCJ photo.

I don't have a picture like that, so that's why I included the measurements in the table.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2019, 09:23:35 am »
Big improvement! I had been thinking for years that I had the wrong timing pointers on all my '68s.


I've updated the ID page based on the information we've shared in this topic. What do y'all think?

https://www.428cobrajet.org/id-timing-pointer
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2019, 11:15:36 am »
Looks great Scott thanks.
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Re: Timing pointer question
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2019, 09:37:48 pm »
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I don't have a picture like that

I'll get a picture of the early pointer.

Does anyone have one of the 69-70 versions that can do the same for it?
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